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wobbly on the affordable care act and we want him to show how hough he's going to be. and a wall street -- a national review writer and editor, gave a speech at princeton, at a reunion, saying my sources at the supreme court say that roberts is moving to a pro affordable care act position, which is really quite extraordinary. and he was quite right. my information is that those leaks did come from clerks. perhaps to their -- the judges they had clerked for in the circuit courts and then into the media bloodstream. my position about all this is generally pro leak and pro disclosure. so what this happened? i don't see what harm was done it don't understand why that's process has to be so mystified and secret. obviously within some reason. but to me it was just illustrative of how passionately, particularly conservatives, felt about this case, but i don't think there was any particular harm from it. >> in 1987, a small working group of sandra day o'connor, byron white and bill brennan, drafted a law clerk code of conduct, which i think was slightly tweaked, and then in its final form was a
they took away. from your perspective, hough does that teamwork really get enhanced moving forward and what starts it? who has to start it? >> guest: you know, it's one of those cultural traits that changed over time but we need it to change faster. sometimes i think of the hierarchy of met sane similar the hierarchy in military. we have rules and procedures, ways of doing things, unwritten standards we n never go above our superior's head for anything. you know, i think we can be more honest and open about the problems in health care, and we can redesign the way we talk in the operating room and the healthcare setting in the clinics and hospitals. when we developed the check lift for the operating room -- this is after peter worked in the icu and said we're going have to a daily goal sheet. and popularized -- led the world health organization group. we presented our experience the group and it became much big irthan we anticipated. the number one priority that we made in the chick list was making the first item going over the names and members of the team, going over their roles, and it's
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